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30 January 2010 @ 07:07 pm
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I thought time would help me cool off. Give it a day and you'll feel better.

Instead I just burn more and more.

I'm sick of feeling like I'm the one kicking around in the mud while others take the moral high ground. I hate feeling like I'm in the wrong for choosing "emotion" over "reason".

But no, you know what, no. Here, I'll give you emotion AND reason. We all like statistics; I'll give you statistics.

MUSUMEYAKU YOUNG STAR GUIDE

This was published in early 2006, before Ayane actually assumed the top position.

I reordered all the musumeyaku by year instead of troupe.

1999
Sakura Ichika: ACTIVE (not really star-tracked)
Mihou Aya: ACTIVE (not star-tracked)
Yamashina Ai: RETIRED
Minami Mari: RETIRED
Miwa Asahi: RETIRED

2000
Hanano Juria: ACTIVE (not star-tracked)
Shirosaki Ai: RETIRED
Hizuki Hana: RETIRED TOP STAR

2001
Kashiro Kiho: RETIRED
Suzuhana Risa: ACTIVE (not star-tracked)
Haruka Midori: ACTIVE (not star-tracked)
Kazune Miou: RETIRED
Sakihana An: RETIRED

2002
Sakurano Ayane: TOP STAR
Hisaki Seara: ACTIVE (not really star-tracked)
Hanakage Arisu: ACTIVE (star-tracked?)

2003
Shirahana Remi: ACTIVE (star-tracked?)
Yumesaki Nene: TOP STAR

2004
Aihara Mika: TOP STAR
Aono Yuki: TOP STAR

TOTAL TOP STARS: 5/20

CONCLUSION: Hankyuu doesn't know what it's doing with musumeyaku for more than five minutes. Generally, however, it favors the younger end of the girls the company is pushing.

NOT FEATURED IN THIS BOOK

Nono Sumika: TOP STAR
Ranno Hana: SOON TO BE TOP
Maihane Mimi: MOST LIKELY TO BE TOP

And here's what I just wasted an hour and a half of my life on...

Top Otokoyaku (Debut Year) - Top Musumeyaku (Debut Year) = Year Difference

Takashio Tomoe (1972) - Wakaba Hiromi (1975) = 3 years
Takashio Tomoe (1972) - Akishino Miho (1978) = 6 years
Ooura Mizuki (1974) - Hibiki Mito (1978) = 4 years
Anju Mira (1980) - Morina Miharu (1988) = 8 years
Maya Miki (1981) - Junna Risa (1990) = 9 years
Maya Miki (1981) - Sen Hosachi (1994) = 13 years
Aika Mire (1985) - Ootori Rei (1993) = 8 years
Takumi Hibiki (1987) - Ootori Rei (1993) = 6 years
Haruno Sumire (1991) - Ootori Rei (1993) = 2 years
Haruno Sumire (1991) - Fuzuki Miyo (1995) = 4 years
Haruno Sumire (1991) - Sakurano Ayane (2002) = 11 years
Matobu Sei (1995) - Sakurano Ayane (2002) = 7 years
Matobu Sei (1995) - Ranno Hana (2006) = 11 years

Average Difference = 7 years
Current Difference = 7 years
Upcoming Difference = 11 years

Daichi Mao (1973) - Kuroki Hitomi (1981) = 8 years
Tsurugi Miyuki (1974) - Kodama Ai (1980) = 6 years
Suzukaze Mayo (1981) - Asano Kayo (1988) = 7 years
Amami Yuuki (1987) - Asano Kayo (1988) = 1 year
Kuze Seika (1983) - Kazahana Mai (1990) = 7 years
Makoto Tsubasa (1985) - Kazahana Mai (1990) = 5 years
Makoto Tsubasa (1985) - Dan Rei (1992) = 7 years
Shibuki Jun (1986) - Emi Kurara (1999) = 13 years
Ayaki Nao (1990) - Emi Kurara (1999) = 9 years
Sena Jun (1992) - Ayano Kanami (1997) = 5 years
Kiriya Hiromu (1994) - Aono Yuki (2004) = 10 years

Average Difference = 7 years
Current Difference = 10 years

Asami Rei (1970) - Haruka Kurara (1974) = 4 years
Taira Michi (1973) - Kanna Miho (1983) = 10 years
Mori Keaki (1979) - Ayu Yuuki (1985) = 6 years
Mori Keaki (1979) - Murasaki Tomo (1984) = 5 years
Ichiro Maki (1982) - Hanafusa Mari (1991) = 9 years
Takane Fubuki (1983) - Hanafusa Mari (1991) = 8 years
Todoroki Yuu (1985) - Hanafusa Mari (1991) = 6 years
Todoroki Yuu (1985) - Tsukikage Hitomi (1990) = 5 years
Emao Yuu (1987) - Konno Mahiru (1996) = 9 years
Asami Hikaru (1991) - Maikaze Rira (1995) = 4 years
Mizu Natsuki (1993) - Shirahane Yuri (1998) = 5 years
Mizu Natsuki (1993) - Aihara Mika (2004) = 11 years

Average Difference = 6.8 years
Current Difference = 11 years

Mine Saori (1972) - Kojou Reika (1975) = 3 years
Mine Saori (1972) - Minakaze Mai (1979) = 7 years
Hyuuga Kaoru (1976) - Marimo Eri (1981) = 5 years
Shion Yuu (1978) - Shiraki Ayaka (1988) = 10 years
Asaji Saki (1983) - Shiraki Ayaka (1988) = 5 years
Asaji Saki (1983) - Tsukikage Hitomi (1990) = 7 years
Asaji Saki (1983) - Hoshina Yuri (1990) = 7 years
Minoru Kou (1985) - Hoshina Yuri (1990) = 5 years
Kouju Tatsuki (1986) - Nagisa Aki (1988) = 2 years
Kozuki Wataru (1989) - Dan Rei (1992) = 3 years
Kozuki Wataru (1989) - Shirahane Yuri (1998) = 9 years
Aran Kei (1991) - Toono Asuka (1998) = 7 years
Yuzuki Reon (1999) - Yumesaki Nene (2003) = 4 years

Average Difference = 5.7 years
Current Difference = 4 years

Shizuki Asato (1987) - Hanafusa Mari (1991) = 4 years
Wao Youka (1988) - Hanafusa Mari (1991) = 3 years
Takashiro Kei (1991) - Shijou Rui (1997) = 6 years
Yamato Yuuga (1995) - Hizuki Hana (2000) = 5 years
Oozora Yuuhi (1992) - Nono Sumika (2005) = 13 years

Average Difference = 6.2 years
Current Difference = 13 years

TOTAL AVERAGE = 6.6 YEARS
CURRENT AVERAGE = 9 YEARS
UPCOMING AVERAGE = 9.8 YEARS

(Currently 3 out of 5 top couples are at 10+ years apart, and after Ayane retires it will be 4 out of 5.)

Tell me, just tell me, why it is that people want this. In what universe is an almost 10-year age difference between partners the desirable norm.

What. Why. WHAT, I ASK YOU.
 
 
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Proactively Untwist Octagonal Hippopotamus Pants: takarazuka - mii-chan nodramaturgca on January 30th, 2010 10:12 am (UTC)
You're totally right. And anyone who looks down on you for choosing "emotion" over "reason" in a fandom is doing it wrong and you have every right to tell them to shove it.

*hugs*
quinquinquinquin on January 30th, 2010 10:55 am (UTC)
The age difference is interesting. I hadn't thought about that angle. I also did numbers this morning and ended up with:

Average years from debut to topstar debut:

Hanagumi: 5
Tsukigumi: 4,9
Yukigumi: 4,9
Hoshigumi: 7,2
Soragumi: 6,7

(not counting people who transfered from one top position to another.)

That didn't look as bad. One other notable thing is that all the new tops are replacing performers who made top later (or same age). Which may be why they feel so young.

The earliest someone made top was Kuroki Hitomi who debuted in 1981 and made top in 1982. Kind of scary.

I hope the age difference is a short lived thing.
Jen: Daichi Mao & Kuroki Hitomi 2caithion on January 30th, 2010 11:14 am (UTC)
Out of curiosity I grabbed all of the partners whose chemistry together I really loved:

Haruno Sumire (1991) - Sakurano Ayane (2002) = 11 years
Matobu Sei (1995) - Sakurano Ayane (2002) = 7 years
Daichi Mao (1973) - Kuroki Hitomi (1981) = 8 years
Amami Yuuki (1987) - Asano Kayo (1988) = 1 year
Shibuki Jun (1986) - Emi Kurara (1999) = 13 years
Sena Jun (1992) - Ayano Kanami (1997) = 5 years
Mizu Natsuki (1993) - Shirahane Yuri (1998) = 5 years
Asaji Saki (1983) - Shiraki Ayaka (1988) = 5 years
Kouju Tatsuki (1986) - Nagisa Aki (1988) = 2 years
Kozuki Wataru (1989) - Shirahane Yuri (1998) = 9 years
Oozora Yuuhi (1992) - Nono Sumika (2005) = 13 years

From which I'm afraid the only thing I can say is that some couples have it for me and some don't, and it has nothing to do with the age difference between them. And some combinations of partners work for some people and not for others.

I'm sorry the current situation is hurting you like it is. :/ I'm not a fly on the wall backstage, so I don't know why these decisions are being made, but I like to believe that it isn't The Man against The Fan. Well, I'll stop here, but it hurts me to see you making yourself physically ill over it. Something you do for enjoyment shouldn't do that to you. :/
anthy1306: Ayane shinyanthy1306 on January 30th, 2010 03:13 pm (UTC)
"I'm sorry the current situation is hurting you like it is. I'm not a fly on the wall backstage, so I don't know why these decisions are being made, but I like to believe that it isn't The Man against The Fan. Well, I'll stop here, but it hurts me to see you making yourself physically ill over it. Something you do for enjoyment shouldn't do that to you."

I have to second that.
And by the way, I share the same opinion of you.
I don't approve too young Musumeyaku-Tops out of nowhere too much. Also the trend of making seito topstar in a troupe they have never been in, is not of my taste really.
KyaniteD / 藍晶石-D: Bakumatsu Ummkyanited on January 30th, 2010 11:49 am (UTC)
Um, it's Japan? No one cares about age difference and maturity is generally underrated?


I don't get why western fans would be eager to see a large age difference, though.
michiru42: Sailor Neptunemichiru42 on January 30th, 2010 07:33 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure if you were trying to be sarcastic or not, since it's hard to tell without hearing the tone of your voice. In case you weren't, people do care about age in Japan. It's considered very important, especially for women, which is why we get so many young girls over mature women.
KyaniteD / 藍晶石-Dkyanited on January 30th, 2010 07:48 pm (UTC)
When I say maturity is underrated I don't mean in the society itself, I mean in the entertainment industry.
+Elise+faux_semblant on January 30th, 2010 02:53 pm (UTC)
your statistics are very interesting, thanks for making it !! but I realise now that .... it didn't really change from early Taka no?
Amami Yuuki and Yuhii are the opposite record winners!
and I don't really care about age but I care when musumeyaku like Minami Mari , Yamashina Ai and Kashiro Kiho retire -_- what a waste
Julie: masami smilewao_wao on January 30th, 2010 04:01 pm (UTC)
it didn't really change from early Taka no?

The statistics are all over the place, true. But I do think that now it's not just one top couple -- across troupes this is one of the all-time highs (although I see it as a "low" point) for top star age difference.

but I care when musumeyaku like Minami Mari , Yamashina Ai and Kashiro Kiho retire -_- what a waste

Exactly. What a waste, indeed. The company wouldn't be in this mess, scrambling for musumeyaku places to fill, if they hadn't let so many talented young women slip away and retire because they weren't being used properly.

Edited at 2010-01-30 04:08 pm (UTC)
magenta07 on January 30th, 2010 08:43 pm (UTC)
looks like the western entertainment industry to me: where men (in this case, women who play men) can work til whenever they want but women have an expiry date.