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15 December 2008 @ 12:30 pm
This could also be called "Julie shares clips from AmeUta *without* Alice-chan, Part 1"  
This post has been building in my head for... *counts* six months, and I'm only going to write out a fraction of it now because I have no idea how long it might end up. It's probably best to do this in pieces anyway.

And so, without further ado...

Julie's Massive Three-Way Analysis of 'Singin' in the Rain's

Part I: Cosmo

The reason I'm FINALLY starting to write this is because I put in my Hoshi AmeUta DVD to check on something that I'd suddenly remembered. In the '03 version, Tani messes up one of her lines and Touko calls her on it. X3 I recall trying to figure out Tani's mistake back in my early days in the fandom, so the word in question got lodged in my brain, and when I was listening to the "new" AmeUta soundtrack yesterday for the billionth time, I heard Tomu say the line correctly and that old memory came back to me.

Now, of course, I finally understand it all. Some lines are based on the original movie; some not.

Don: "Now for my new movie, a new character -- Count Pierre de Bataille... Yes... The Duelling Cavalier!"
Cosmo: "What's the story?"
Don: "The French Revolution..."
Cosmo: "Got it. You're a French aristocrat, she's a simple girl of the people, and she doesn't want to put you on the wagon to the execution block!"
Don: "Well, it's a living."

The word Tani flubbed was "wagon". :P

ANYWAY, WHAT THIS POST IS ACTUALLY ABOUT is comparing Cosmo...s. Cosmo Browns, there we go. ^^;; Donald O'Connor, Yamato Yuuga and Ranju Tomu.

Basically in my mind, Gene Kelly and Donald O'Connor were the ultimate Don and Cosmo. Touko and Tani were then the next best Don and Cosmo, and I think most people agree that in an Alternate Universe Soragumi, Tomu!Don and Tani!Cosmo would have been the most fitting for the new production.

See, Tani's Cosmo is kind of Tani playing herself. There she is, impish otokoyaku, having just skyrocketed out of shinkos, landed the nibante role in Guys and Dolls, about to move to the sanbante spot in Soragumi... But she's taking a detour through Hoshigumi for another nibante role first. She's charmed her way this far, and what she needs for Cosmo is to be a goofy charmer... And that's basically exactly what she does. Did. Tani!Cosmo is really just Tani, completely herself and different from the original.

Tomu, on the other hand, really wanted to be Donald O'Connor, I think. In the Now On Stage she marvels at how he molded his face into such wacky expressions; it seems like she really admires him. But in the end, Tomu probably just isn't as good at physical humor as Tani, much less O'Connor, so her Cosmo came off more like a guy on a sugar high (or drugs XD) than the calculated comical genius of the original Cosmo. There is some goofy charmer in there, in her own way (clearly quite different from Tani's) but mostly... yeah, too many pixie sticks, Tomu. ;P

In this scene, anyway. And that's not to say I don't love Tomu!Cosmo, because I do. Wholeheartedly. It's just that I'll never be able to let go of that vague dream of Tomu!Don and Tani!Cosmo, a dream that just wouldn't do now that we have Top Star Tani... But the Top Star Tani analysis goes into a different post. :P

For now, clips!

Make 'Em Laugh - 1952 original, baby. (It's a YouTube link; I didn't bring my DVD with me to Japan.) WATCH. AND BE AMAZED. Seriously, it's awesome some of the stunts O'Connor pulls, and a shame they couldn't be translated to the stage. Plus it will give you the English context if you don't understand Japanese!

Make 'Em Laugh - 2003 Hoshigumi version. When I was re-watching this, the first thing I did was grin at Gingami and that one in the glasses... X3 (The Sora babies put their "action!" sneezes in a much better place than Gingami did, btw ;P) And then Touko came out... and I cried a little. ;______; (Nope, still not over it, not at all.) Then I, you know, watched Tani and reaffirmed the thoughts that have led to this post. Oh, but also random shout-out to Asazono Miki (Rod)! I hearts her. :3 And did I see a StageHand!Doi-chan back there...? :D

Make 'Em Laugh - 2008 Soragumi version. Not that I don't like Hoshi babies, but I think it goes without saying that I love the antics of the Sora baby stage hands ten zillion times more. Particularly because I got to watch them live when my eyes strayed away from Tomu (okay, I admit, after the first viewing I was always watching the background babies ^^;; And maybe the reason I love them so much more because they're doing less actual work XDDD)... And Gay!Tomoe using the fanclub wear as a neckerchief <333 And note how on the '03 DVD they wisely edited it so you CAN'T see the stage hand setting off the arrow... But in this version you can totally see BonBon stand there and do it. XDDD Also also, ending that is a billion times more hilarious than Hoshigumi's (Riku <333 Ai-ai <333 I love you <33333)

...Oh, were you expecting more analysis after the clips? Sorry, I guess you'll have to write it yourselves. ;)

As an unrelated side note, I'm seriously thinking of finally making a filter for sharing clips and things. The only reason I haven't made one is because I'm lazy and don't like to categorize my friends... But I'm just feeling less and less motivation to share with people who never express their appreciation.

So comment! Discuss with me! :P
Current Mood: thoughtfulanalytical
Becca: Ranju Tomu muffin_song on December 15th, 2008 04:02 am (UTC)
Interesting post.

So I went and watched the 2003 hoshigumi clip and the one from the original movie. I have to say, I like both Tani and Tomu. Yes, Tomu had too many pixie sticks, but I like it that way.

It's been so long since I watched the 2003 hoshi version, but I agree that Tani is pretty much playing herself and that it works really well.

For the record, I thought that (for the soragumi version) "Make 'Em Laugh" came off much better live than on DVD *shrug*

Can you please continue this series? And maybe the next part can cover otokoyaku in drag? ;) Barring that, I'd like to hear your opinions on Touko!Don vs. Tani!Don.
Julie: touko don humphwao_wao on December 15th, 2008 04:14 am (UTC)
Yeah, I worry about sounding as if I didn't like Tomu's Cosmo... because I did, I just liked Tani's more. ^^;; Tani playing herself means it came off really natural, whereas Tomu tried too hard at times, I guess?

For the record, I thought that (for the soragumi version) "Make 'Em Laugh" came off much better live than on DVD

See my comment on watching people in the background. ;)

Can you please continue this series?

I did say this was only Part I, didn't I? ;) I have tons to say on the Dons and Linas as well. ^^
Becca: Micchan blamemuffin_song on December 15th, 2008 04:20 am (UTC)
See my comment on watching people in the background. ;)

I pretty much had Hokushou Tunnel Vision while watching it live, and I'll admit that I often put down my opera glasses during non-Lina scenes (using opera glasses plus my regular glasses REALLY gives me a headache after a while, and I liked to conserve my "time" to when Micchan was on stage) Anyway, the point of all that was that I noticed a lot of things on DVD that I didn't notice in the theater. It's been fun rewatching <3
kirakira_sora: Singin' In Japan 08kirakira_sora on December 15th, 2008 04:58 am (UTC)
Funny enough, I loved Tomu better than Tani. Yet, I still cringe at Tomu's slight lack of comedic timing which seems much more obvious in the dvd than it was on stage. Granted I will also fully admit to watching the babies in the back after the first two times. I was enjoying that drama Tomoe was causing in the back with her mop.

I swear I think I need to sit down and see the original Singin' In the Rain. Maybe watching it in full I will find some appeal to it.
Julie: touko don humphwao_wao on December 15th, 2008 05:22 am (UTC)
I think Tomu has a general problem with timing, seeing as she couldn't jerk her head at the right moment when being conked by a frying pan either. X3

Tomoe's drama! Losing her script book and blowing kisses when she got it back! So many things to miss about the live show ;______;

I swear I think I need to sit down and see the original Singin' In the Rain...

cosmos14cosmos14 on December 15th, 2008 04:59 am (UTC)

See, Tani's Cosmo is kind of Tani playing herself.
yeah i totally agree on this. ^_^
i think she somehow studied Cosmo character, she is almost as energetic as the 50's movie. i like the winking at the audience at the end of her scene. =^^=

i like Tomu!Cosmo, too. she has this mischievous expression all the time. hahahaha

whenever i watched the Sora version for the nth time... i felt that Tani and Tomu are really like Don and Cosmo in real life than Touko and Tani.

Gay!Tomoe. gahhh i really love her character there... ^^ hahahaha
Julie: tani cosmo laughwao_wao on December 15th, 2008 05:24 am (UTC)
Tani does do a good wink. ;D But Tomu's mischievousness is so much different than Tani's! It's fascinating. *.*

And of course, much love for Gay!Tomoe!!! <3333
ohtori_tsuki: Kimuohtori_tsuki on December 15th, 2008 05:10 am (UTC)
Though I will admit that I haven't seen her in all that many shows, I have to say that Cosmo is my absolute favourite of all the roles that I've seen her in. You're right, it's just so natural, and the range and style worked really well for her voice.
Julie: tani cosmo starwao_wao on December 15th, 2008 05:25 am (UTC)
Haha, I'm guessing the implied subject here is "Tani". X3 But yay, people agree with me! ^^
ohtori_tsukiohtori_tsuki on December 15th, 2008 07:37 am (UTC)
Oh, shoot, yeah. I meant Tani. Clearly I need to get some sleep. I love her Cosmo, though I have to say I liked all the cape swishing she did in 12th Night. But then, I kind of have this thing for capes.
Ms. Britt: [touko3]ladybretagne on December 15th, 2008 06:03 am (UTC)
I really do love all of them in their own way. Tomu is so sugar crazed and ADD and Tani as Cosmo is so much Touko's wingman, which makes me giggle endlessly in it's own way.
Proactively Untwist Octagonal Hippopotamus Pants: takarazuka - wao phantomdramaturgca on December 15th, 2008 07:26 am (UTC)
Please don't take me off the clips filter, Julie! I download them, I just don't always watch them immediately because of stupid Real Life and then when I do, I've lost the post to comment on! But I love them! I've been watching the Holy Star clips for Holiday 'Zuka fun...
arlecchinic on December 16th, 2008 11:30 am (UTC)
My problem with Tomu, from the beginning, was that she looked wrong. I think that Tani and O'Connor both worked the lanky look and - it might just be exactly the same as what you're saying, and Tomu looks more like a movie star than a Cosmo-type.

On stage, I liked her well enough, but she was pretty ...forgettable. I'm trying to remember my at-the-time impressions of the show, and I can't remember much more than "Yeah. All right."

Whereas after I watched the Hoshigumi one, I was all "WHO IS THAT COSMO."

I can't actually download the clips today, because I sort of killed the download limit with carols and it won't reset until Thursday >.>

P.S. Will re-engage numbers in battle tomorrow morning.
Baracilla: Takarazuka Drugbaracilla on December 17th, 2008 05:37 am (UTC)
Tani is so noisy in comparison to Tomu! XD With her performance I found myself laughing at the overall spazzy ridiculous Tani-ness rather than the individual gags.

Tomu's performance was much more polished, so I think I prefer it, though I agree with Catie that casting-wise Tomu is more of the movie-star type than the clown type.